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Nova Bridge

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:40 pm
by lazi
As far as I know MiniGL on Amiga OS is working top of warp3d drivers.
They say that NovaBrigde is a wrapper of old warp3d to the new warp3d Nova.
Now the question is how that affects GLGalore performance?

Can anybody with X5000 and NovaBridge test it? Is it makes any difference?
NovaBridge is on my wishlist, but the priority is depends on the useability in the view of Hollywood. Certainly :-)

Re: Nova Bridge

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:56 pm
by airsoftsoftwair
Haven't had time to test this yet. I'd also be interested in some tests on how GL Galore performs.

Re: Nova Bridge

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:51 am
by kikems
I have a SAM 460LE with Radeon HD R9 250 with RadeonHD driver v5 and Warp3DNova with a fresh install of AmigaOS4.1 FE and the problem with Hollywood 10 or GLgalore plugin is that GLgalore example codes works too slow ( around 1-2 fps for cellshading example code ).
I'd test with Hollywood 10 and 9 with same results. Same Cellshading example works really fast in MorphOS.

Other executables ( not hollywood based ) for MiniGL works at lightspeed. Really I don't know if this problem is only with GLgalore with RadeonHD v5 Driver+3dNova or if it's a general problem with GLgalore for any AmigaOS4.1 FE.

My MorphOS MacMini with Radeon 9200 runs CellShading example smooth ( I don't know how many fps but sure 15-20 fps at least ).

Re: Nova Bridge

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:30 am
by kikems
Yesterday I'd test without NovaBridge, only with RadeonHD driver and Warp3D-SI with same results.

This executable from minigl installation/update ( demos/celshading ) of same CelShading anim runs fast.
http://os4depot.net/share/driver/graphics/minigl.lha

Re: Nova Bridge

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:18 pm
by airsoftsoftwair
GL Galore probably needs a few tweaks to make use of Nova Bridge. GL Galore was designed for classic MiniGL, i.e. the one used on AmigaOne and Pegasos 2 setups. The GL Galore examples run very smoothly on my Pegasos 2 using OS 4.1 FE. Adapting it for Nova Bridge is on my agenda though...

Re: Nova Bridge

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:04 pm
by kikems
airsoftsoftwair wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:18 pm GL Galore probably needs a few tweaks to make use of Nova Bridge. GL Galore was designed for classic MiniGL, i.e. the one used on AmigaOne and Pegasos 2 setups. The GL Galore examples run very smoothly on my Pegasos 2 using OS 4.1 FE. Adapting it for Nova Bridge is on my agenda though...
Here a small video showing actual speed of some GL Galore examples VS original executables compiled from SDK for MiniGL.

https://youtu.be/LnulM9Ev2r8

My actual config is a SAM460LE with Radeon RX. Of course RadeonRX need NovaBridge( a set of libraries or warpers to bring Warp3D and MiniGL for run old MiniGL and Warp3D executables.
In the past I'd made the same test with similar results with RadeonHD-SI with Warp3D-SI libs installed.

As airsoftsoftwair says Hollywood Galore only runs well with original AmigaOS4 minigl with old drivers for old 3D cards like Radeon9200 or similar ( the original drivers for graphic cards included in AmigaOS4 fresh install ). Newer solutions like RadeonHD and RadeonRX works too slow.

I'm suppose it's a small bug or modification to do for GL Galore for works with newer driver solutions and continue using the MiniGL.

Warp3DNova is other thing, is a new set of advanced and most modern GL libs with new functions and technologies like Ogles2, GL4ES,... the succesor of old MiniGL.

Re: Nova Bridge

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:23 pm
by airsoftsoftwair
Thanks for the video. Supporting Nova Bridge is still on my agenda so hopefully these issues will be solved soon.